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February 2009 Newsletter
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Email: Abby@cornellpubs.com (please don't "return" this newsletter to the unmonitored mailbox)

        In This Issue:

              1. Calls from the Wilds
              2. New Books and Special Thanks to Lenders
              3. Letters from Readers
              4. Provenance for Your Gun
              5. Serial Numbers by Year for Your Gun
              6. Original Publications for sale
              7. Rants and Raves
              8. Miscellaneous

Calls from the Wilds:Calls from the Wilds Image

*Last spring we visited Shirley Vorisek in Connecticut. As many of you know she kindly gave us permission to reprint all Joe Vorisek's scholarly research histories of gun makers. In fact you will find some new ones below. But, Shirley also gave us all Joe's research material including an unfinished book Joe called "A Study of Popular Priced Cartridge Handguns 1860-1940". Looking through the huge alphabetical assemblage Joe started I can see it is not too far from completion, something I would love to see done. Unfortunately I have neither the knowledge nor the time to finish it myself so I am inviting help from you, dear readers. If you have published a book in the past and can show me your interest in taking on the task of completing Joe's work, I would like to consider sharing the manuscript with you. I will be pleased to publish it and pay you a royalty for issues sold. So, please contact me if you have an interest in this project.

*This YouTube video will blow you away (excuse the pun).

Bob Munden claims to be the fastest gun to ever live. He specializes in quick drawing with a SSA revolver. And he claims to hold 18 world records.

Can he back up all that big talk? You better believe it. I’ve never seen anyone do anything this fast. He uses a specially made gun and holster. But no gear alone can produce these results. This made my jaw drop.

*Parts suppliers. We get hundreds of calls about parts...

Joe Salter is just one fellow who comes with the recomendation of a good friend in New England. Located in New Hampshire, Joe specializes in Winchesters, Lugers, Smith and Wesson, Colts, Antique Guns, Modern Guns, Firearms, Swords, Ammunition and Militaria. If you have a favorite part supplier, gunsmith or reseller, let me know along with what they specialize in and I'll begin a list for everyone to share.

*Very Big Bullet Question:

Berta Lledo, the archeologist exploring the sunken Turkish ship Ertuğrul, which sank off the coast of Japan in 1890 and which we featured in the October newsletter last year sent us a new photo begging explanation. The relic in question looks to be a cannon shell of some sort. She hopes someone will be able to help her identify the object.

"Dear Abby, We are in the field right now, in Kushimoto, Japan, excavating the 1890 shipwreck from Turkey.

ImageYesterday we had an interesting discovery, the divers brought back to the lab a large stone with interesting shapes, I started cleaning it removing all the sea encrustations and found that the stone had formed over an artifact during the intervening years and the artifact in the picture appeared. Is it a projectile? my first impression when I saw it was that of a large bullet but I will think it is too big to be a cannonball, it is 18 cm. in diam - (7.09 inches). I am not even sure of which material it is made, but it seems to be like some kind of lead alloy, it is very heavy.

What is your impression?  You have seen a lot of material related to guns and armor and you might recognize it ... or if it is completely foreign to you it might be something related to something else in the ship.

Thanks in advance, Berta Lledo"

The ship was armed with the following cannons so I wonder of one could have had a projectile matching the dimensions Berta gave us? Abby

      8× 15 cm Krupp guns
      5× 150 lb (68 kg) Armstrong guns
      2× 4, 2× 3 font Krupp guns
      2× 5-barreled Hotchkiss guns
      2× 5-barreled, 4× Nordenfeld
      1× 12 lb and 1× 6 lb rocket launcher
      1× torpedo launcher
      2× torpedoes

 

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By the way, last year Paypal softened it's previously hard line with respect to firearms and is now much more reasonable. I wrote about it in my July 2007 Newsletter.

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Cheers, Abby

*Link to past newsletters (click this link)

Hint- If you are using the browser Firefox and have trouble seeing any images on this website, try hitting the refresh button. Meanwhile I will continue trying to figure out how to make my website more compatible with Firefox

New Books and Special thanks (see the bottom of this letter for the complete alpha list without accompanying text):

Bill Hoffman loaned us a copy of the Grigsby Reloading Catalog 1955 a name I was unfamiliar with before Bill sent it. Bill also found a copy of the Redfield Sights 1980 Catalog which nicely rounds off our Redfield collection. He also came up with a copy of the 1978 Tikka (Finland) catalog, an old Tillinghast Ammunition catalog from around 1960 and finally a Winchester Ammo catalog from 1981

Bill Thacker sent over two Mossberg Catalogs from 1942 and 1946 respectively. They were and are in color and I've not seen tehm before either. Thanks, Bill.

Jim Buchanan, the ammunition expert of the UK sent us an interesting copy of the "Peter's Hunters c1955".

Greg Foster has been busy writing a history of the Simson (Suhl) Company from roughly 1840 to 1940. It is hard work researching these old companies so please take a look at Gregs short history.

Joel Black, Homer Ficken and Frank Michaels did a superb job with their hardcover book on Webley Solid Frame Revolvers. It has been beautifully printed in color by Schiffer Publishing and I can sell the book.

Dennis Adler has reissued an update to his 1998 Black Powder Revolvers- Reproductions and Replicas. It is available in hardcover from Blue Book Publications for $39.95.

Mark Erickson is the author of Antique American Switchblades- Identification and Values 2004. This softcover book is soup to nuts about switchblades, gravity knives, flick knives and their ilk. We have it available for sale.

Image of JoeThose of you who knew Joe Vorisek already know about the terrific amount of research he did over the years. The interesting thing is that Joe was one of those rare fellows who never sought the limelight of a large publishing house to mass produce his books. He did his work for the sheer joy of learning. Oh sure, he sold some copies of his many books but he never made fancy covers or had photographers take color, glossy 8 x 10 photos with the circles and arrows and the paragraph on the back of each one (thanks Arlo) of subject guns. He just toiled away at his next project tirelessly. We are endlessly grateful that Shirley, his widow, has given us the right to reprint Joe's works and boy, do they sell, I'm going to have to buy a new printer! Joe's books give history, serial numbers, dates, models, patents and other hard to get collector information. As I said, he didn't spend a lot of time searching out rare guns and taking beautiful photos of them, he used gun catalog illustrations and photocopies, but his historical information is irreplaceable. So far we have the following available:

A Basic Reference Guide to Old Firearms

American Arms History

Breechloading Shotguns Vol I A-F

Breechloading Shotguns Vol II G-P

Breechloading Shotguns Vol III R-Z

Digest of Advertising for Firearms and Ammunition 1873-1940

Flobert Guns History

Forehand Arms Company History

Harrington & Richardson Arms Co. History

History of Shotgun Making In Belgium

Hopkins & Allen History

Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works History

Mossberg, O.F. Company History

Savage Arms History

Stevens Arms History

From stock I was able to get the following ready and they are now available:

B.S.A. 1925 Shotguns Catalog

Georges LaLoux (Liege) c1923 Sporting Guns

Godfrey, Chas. J. (New York) Firearms 1888 Catalog

Our Rifles (History) by Charles Winthrop Sawyer 1920

Overbaugh & Co., New York 1885

Rigby Shotguns 1924 Catalog

Savage, MW, New York 1922-23

Sears Roebuck 1900 Gun & Sports

Thos Leary Co. (New York) Gun Importers 1903 Catalog

Verney Carron (Stopvis) 1935

W. C. Scott Guns 1899

*I recently put a link on my home page to Reference Books.

These are books by authors such as Joel Black, Bob Elliott, William Goforth, Art Phelps, Tom Quigley, Ned Roberts, L.D. Satterlee, Charles Winthrop Sawyer, Joe Vorisek, RH Wells, Townsend Whelan and others as well as catalogs and books I felt belonged in the catagory. Some are regular ISBN published books like Bob Elliott's work on Lefevers and others I reprint myself, such as the Sawyer books on Revolvers and Rifles. I hope you find the link useful.

By the way, not all our indexes are alphabetized and can be difficult to search. Until I figure out how to alphabetize them, hit the Control key (on the lower left) and the letter "F" on your keyboard. this will give you a search box on the bottom of the screen. Start to type in the name of what you want to find on that page and it should be highlighted on the screen (this works with most browsers). :-) Abby

Letters from Readers:

Herbert James of West Virginia wants to learn something about the shotgun pictured below. Does anyone know anything about the Dexter Smith Co.?

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(Picture of gun with close up of trigger)
Drop Box 12 gauge single barrell
Manufactured by Dexter Smith Arms Co.,
Springfield, Mass
Pat # Jan 8; Oct 1-67; Feb 8-14; Mar 7-71

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Last month Doug Johnson asked about the Browning - Remington connection. S.J. Slattery replied: "The Browning-Remington 20 gauge. I had a 12 gauge Browning Auto-5 a number of years ago like this. It is my understanding that Browning bought receivers from Remington after WW Two to get them back in production as FN in Belgium was in pretty bad shape after the German occupation. This resulted in the so called "American Browning" variation. It was not considered a rare gun. I am sure that someone out there can add to this."

Butch Phillips from Australia asked: "Hi Abby, It would be nice to see if any others out there owns a Vickers rifle like mine and if they have any information about it. I would appreciate it if you could ask in the newsletter. I just might get lucky!!! The rifle is a "Vickers" .242 Magazine Express rifle (shown in your reprint--Vickers Ltd. 1924 Sporting Guns & Rifles). My rifle serial no. 4033. There's no rush and no pressure as I've been looking for over 10 years now. Cheers from down under.  Butch.

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Ever wonder who first purchased your gun or rifle or wished you had a certificate of origin? It could increase the value of your gun!

Sammy Baugh, or Eddie Dew or some other celebrity may have been the original buyer. Perhaps the provenance would increase the value of your favorite fowling piece or rifle. Well, now you have a chance to find out for free if the gun was sold by VonLengerke & Detmold or Abercrombie & Fitch, two of the largest and most prestigious gun houses of the 20th century.

If you own a gun by one of dozens of manufacturers write down the serial number and compare it to the serial numbers at the G&H website:

or Contact:
Robert C. Beach, Records Research
Griffin & Howe, Inc.
33 Claremont Road
Bernardsville, NJ 07924
908-766-2287
Email: research@griffinhowe.com
Website: www.griffinhowe.com
(scroll down to see all the makes when you get there)

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Websites with Serial Numbers and corresponding dates:

John Spangler & Marc Wade operate ArmsCollectors.com!
They offer pages and pages of Serial Numbers to put a year to the following weapons:

| Marlin | Mauser Broomhandle (C-96) | Remington | U.S. Military | Winchester |

| Gun Marks | House Brands | U.S. Inspectors | WWII German Codes And Markings |

also at this great website is a list of handguns and rifles with known serial numbers that qualify as antique,

or: Antique Serial Numbers for lots of Makers (pre 1889 scroll down the page)

or: Doublegunshop.com for:

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Original Gun Catalogs and Books for sale:

Four boxes of old original gun catalogs are up for sale on my website. If you would like prior notice of the sales, please sign up for the announcement newsletter. The hundred and fifty or so people who already signed up knew about this sale last week and some of the bargains are already gone. To register for the special newsletter, send an email to the following address and put the word REGISTER in the subject line: eightbore@comcast.net. Many thanks to all of you who signed up! IF YOU HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED THERE IS NO NEED TO DO SO AGAIN.

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This month's winner is... None at all! Again! What is it? Are folks becoming polite and respectful? I almost cannot believe that I have gone two whole months without so much as one belligerant or crazed customer. Well, one fellow did say that he didn't think I know anything at all after I tried unsuccessfully to identify his gun and find a manual, all by phone. The only thing he could tell me was that it was a carbine issued before, during or after the war to trainee troopies in .22 caliber... and why didn't I have the proper manual? Oh well, ya can't win 'em all. Happy New Year!

But... to see pages of past nastiness, and my replies, go to: RAVES and RANTS

More notes on browser usage:

On the subject of browsers, I should add that sometimes people mention they cannot follow the links I put in my newsletters, or that the pictures don't show up. Well, sometimes browsers are set to only receive messages in plain text. This is usually because their internet connection is slow and pictures make it even slower. There are settings to allow or disallow HTML language (pictures and links). Your browser (the program you use to view emails and internet sites) allows you to click on links to other web pages. The link can either open a new window with the original window disappearing to a small block near the top of the screen or it replaces the current window with the new selection. In the former case to return to the prior window, click the box near the top of the screen. In the latter example click the "back arrow" also at the top of the page (different browsers such as Firefox, Netscape or Internet Explorer use different symbols for the back arrow). For the most part, I use links that replace the newsletter page with the new link. So, to return to the newsletter, you will have to use the back arrow to return to the newsletter.

Ebay has a new rule that affects a lot of people.

The wizards at Ebay decided (just after they laid off a whole bunch of employees and their business is down) that they will no longer allow sellers to advertise that they will accept money orders or checks in payment for purchases made on Ebay. Customers may still pay that way but we cannot advertise the fact. I think the idea is to force people to use Paypal, which is owned by Ebay. Now, to be perfectly honest, I would be much happier if you bought things from my website Cornellpubs.com because that save me sales commissions to Ebay!

Next, please double check your address

Make certain it is current on all sites where you might order something. It will save a lot of trouble and anxiety. I am thinking of Ebay, Gunbroker, Paypal and Auction Arms in particular. And, while I am on the subject, I try to keep my prices as low as I can, but, not surprisingly, one of my greatest expenses is advertising, so, if you order directly from my website - www.cornellpubs.com - and not through the auction sites, you will save me a bunch of money that I can reinvest in new, old catalogs for you!

Old Newsletters are available online:

If you missed a newsletter or want to look up an old one, please go to my website www.cornellpubs.com and look on the top of the first page for a link to old newsletters. You may view them online and in color with pictures. Also, on the subject of newsletters, I send out the newsletter in both HTML and plain text format. This means that if your browser is not set up to view pictures and colors, you automatically get the plain text version. I hope this explains why some of you don't see the pictures referred to in the letters- I know it has caused some confusion. Also, you should upgrade to the latest version of your browser for best results. To learn which version of you have, click the help button on the top line of this page and then look for the link that says "About [browser]".

INDEXES for Every Catalog...

Every catalog we offer has an index at the bottom of the page or in the case of new listings on the right. Listings on Ebay, Gunbroker and Auction Arms as well as our website have indexes (I appreciate purchases at the website where we don't have to pay listing fees or sales commissions... shipping is cheaper for you as well!)

Must Read:

If you haven't yet done so, please read the About Us link on the website. It explains a lot of things such as why graphics vary in books, why I do this in the first place, errors and mistakes, guarantees, loans and more. Also, if you see something in the Coming Soon page you want, let me know and I'll move it up the list for you.

Cheers,
Abby

January Completed Catalogs:

A Basic Reference Guide to Old Firearms (Serial Nos. etc.) by Joe Vorisek

Antique American Switchblades- Identification and Values 2004 by Mark Erickson

A Short History of Shotgun Making In Belgium - Vorisek

Breechloading Shotguns Vol I A-F by Joe Vorisek

Breechloading Shotguns Vol II G-P by Joe Vorisek

Breechloading Shotguns Vol III R-Z by Joe Vorisek

B.S.A. 1925 Shotguns Catalog

Digest of Advertising for Firearms and Ammunition 1873-1940 by Joe Vorisek

Georges LaLoux (Liege) c1923 Sporting Guns

Godfrey, Chas. J. (New York) Firearms 1888 Catalog

Grigsby Reloading Catalog 1955

Harrington & Richardson, A Short Illustrated History of - Joe Vorisek

Iver Johnson’s Arms and Cycle Works, A Short Illustrated History of the - Joe Vorisek

Mossberg 1942 Catalog

Mossberg 1946 Catalog

Our Rifles (History) by Charles Winthrop Sawyer 1920

Overbaugh & Co., New York 1885

Peter's Hunters c1955 (Information of historical hunters)

Redfield Sights 1980 Catalog

Rigby Shotguns 1924 Catalog

Savage, MW, New York 1922-23

Sears Roebuck 1900 Gun & Sports

Simson (Suhl) History by Greg Foster

Thos Leary Co. (New York) Gun Importers 1903 Catalog

Tikka Arms (Finland) 1978

Tillinghast Ammunition c1960

Verney Carron (Stopvis) 1935

W. C. Scott Guns 1899

Webley Solid Frame Revolvers by Black, Ficken and Michaels

Winchester Ammunition Catalog 1981

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