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*Jim Buchanan recommended that you check out the Peter Dyson & Son Ltd. Co. of Yorkshire, England. They sell all kinds of parts and reproduction parts for antique arms. They have leather products, Damascus barrels and tubes, miniatures, used guns, air guns, reloading tools and much more.


* Also, if you aren't already paranoid enough about credit cards, Jim wants to stir you up a bit more with this video about electronic credit card readers that can magnetically filch credit information out of your back pocket as you walk by the thief!  Actually, it isn’t that bad. Only a few credit cards have the RFID chip that the readers need to copy. Check to see if your card has one by looking for this image on the card (the card will likely also have a small indentation where the chip resides on the card):

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*Given the popularity of the Speer Wildcat Cartridge Catalog and other similar catalogs, please see if you have a different but similar catalog or handbook I could borrow to add to the collection.


* If you missed a newsletter or want to look something up - click here


* CORRECTIONS: Several people wrote to tell me how inept my translation of the German title Die Ruckladungs Gewehre 1867 was. Jim Hughes said it most succinctly: Ruckladung Gewehre= Breech Loading Guns.

* Then there were the Big Horn Sheep in Wyoming. Turns out that they were actually Ibex in Italy. I should have checked. I must have received 20 emails about this and I am very sorry... baaaaaaa!


*This is a very good promotional film made about the Willow Run Ford B-24 plant in Ypsilanti, MI during WWII. They produced almost 7000 bombers at the rate of one every 55 minutes. Well worth five minutes watching.


*Remember the US Airways splash in the Hudson River? Capt. Sullenberger did a fabulous job getting everyone out of the stricken airliner safely. Here is a video animation of the brief flight that is worth watching. Turn on your sound!

Ross Seyfried's Column

Ross Seyfried has been an editorial contributor to: Petersen's Hunting, Guns & Ammo, American Rifleman, American Hunter, Rifle, Handloader, Successful Hunter, Outdoor Life, Field and Stream, Cigar Aficionado, The Double Gun Journal, Under Wild Skies, Sporting Classics, and Vapen Tidningen (Sweden). He served as a licensed professional hunter in Zambia and Tanzania and is now a licensed guide and outfitter in Oregon. In addition, Seyfried won the World Pistol Championship in 1981.

German Ammunition Catalogs

RWS, DWM, GECO, UTENDOERFFER

I have often said I would only be surprised if I found two Continental rifles chambered for the same cartridge. While it really is not quite that bad, “German” rifles are found in an astounding array of calibers and chamber dimensions. There are literally hundreds of different commercial  rounds and goodness knows how many slight variations might appear in other than the “normal” versions of the basic cartridges. The collector and worse the shooter of these rifles can be literally groping in the dark . . . Unless you know about Abby!

One of my favorite catalogs is the 1908 H. Utendoerffer “Hulsen-Katalog” This is a real treasure for many reasons, not the least of which it is reproduced in its original full color. This is, as it would translate, a catalog of  cartridge cases. That is, it has empty cases, not loaded ammunition or bullets; ah but what a grand array of them it has. It begins with “Systeme Lancaster”,  and history teaches that Charles Lancaster from England patented the original base (or center) fire cartridges for his shotguns. They begin with a grand 4 ¾” 4-bore and run through many lengths and gauges down to .410. We see here very short 12, 16, 18, 20 and 24-bore cases. These begin to explain the arms we find with very short chambers and rifled bores; short cases with minimal wadding that held a full charge of black powder and bullets! Believe it or not there are six pages of these drawn-brass “bore” cases, with various priming mechanisms. In the same realm, we encounter “Systeme Lefaucheux” . . . yes the man who more or less invented and perfected pinfire, the origins of  successful, self-contained ammunition!

Next comes “Deutsche Sorten” that represents the species of cartridges we would recognize as being based on the .43 Mauser case head. Here we get our first real lesson in German diversity; 74 different cartridges all with the 13mm head and 15 mm rim of the original Mauser! And then comes the Swiss, English, American and others. And, the gold-tone realistic looking illustrations are almost exactly life size. Yes, I really like this one.

Beyond this grand rarity we find more than a dozen RWS, DWM and Geco ammunition catalogs. While most are in German, there are some printed in English, no doubt intended for the American and British markets. Within these we find a quite complete listing of mostly nitro calibers ranging from the wee 5,6 x 35R Vierling, essentially the origin of the Hornet, all the way to the the 11,2 x 72 Schuler (.500 Schuler) one of the most powerful cartridges of all time.

The catalogs are also wonderfully complete in many cases; that is not only illustrating the various cartridges themselves, but with a complete list of bullet weights and designs for each cartridge and many of them show the ballistics as well. The bullet information is quite valuable. Most of the catalogs show cut-away drawings of the interior construction of the bullets themselves that range from a wide variety of expanding bullets to Vollmantel (full jacket, or the wonderful “solid” by any other name). The bullets show a variety of performance characteristics, from violent, rapid expansion to deep-penetration with intended exit. The bullet drawings show internal construction that is truly remarkable. Of course with the bizarre comes a fine selection of good old flat-nosed lead bullets. The Germans probably have forgotten more about game bullets than modern makers will ever know! The ballistic tables show us: the bullet weight, velocity at various ranges, trajectory and often chamber pressure. All of this takes some translation from metric, but soon Abby will post a two-page metric to English “ballistic table" on her website.

In addition to the obvious “metric” loadings we also find American cartridges and empty cases. At times it is very interesting to see that they not only offer the American designation, but also some of the more popular cartridges are sold in metric versions as well. For instance, the obscure 6.5 x 52R is really nothing more or less the .25-35 as adopted on the Continent. There are shotgun shells and pistol calibers as well, including the British and many American rounds . . . Right up to empty cases for the British .577 revolver! The 1926 RWS  has a wonderful spectrum of things in it, that goes far beyond normal: pinfire revolver shot cartridges, airgun pellets, tiny zimmer cartridges, English rooks and even bizarre things like a self-contained paper-wrapped charge of Troisdorf smokeless powder for the 8,15 x 46R target round. I believe the design is so the shooter could reload individual shells right on the target range without a powder measure or loose powder!

These, like so many of the vintage catalogs are just pure fun, and if you are after real, hard information and knowledge; once again “opinions of experts” meet their demise at the hands of pure fact.

December 28, 2010

Elk Song Ranch, Oregon

New Books and Special Thanks

We have lots of interesting reprints to ring in the New Year- 2011. Dick and Al Carleton have a seemingly endless supply of old catalogs and literally scores of what I offer came from these generous brothers. Nick Niles is a well known authority on guns and he was most gracious to share some of his huge collection of catalogs with us. Tom Rowe is also a respected authority on the history of weapons and his generosity is obvious below. Thompson catalogs are pretty rare and I am grateful that Gary Halbakken shared his copy with me.

Dick Carleton
Winchester 1953 Firearms Catalog

Al Carleton
Winchester 1918 Catalogue No. 81  
Western Ammunition Handbook 3rd edition, c1937  
Western Cartridge Co. - Super X – 1927 - Chas Askins  
Handbook on Small Bore Rifle Shooting 1946 - Whelen  
Western Cartridge Co. - American Big Game Hunting - Whelen 1925  

Nick Niles
Sloan’s Sporting Goods Co. 1937 Gun Catalog, New York, NY  
G. M. Hascall & Son 1931 Catalog, Rutland, VT
Gastinne Renette Armes 1925 Catalogue, Paris France  
Andrew Harris Sporting Goods 1899 Catalog- Providence, RI  
Baker, Murray & Imbrie 1921 Guns Catalog, New York, NY  

Tom Rowe
W & C Scott & Sons London 1893 Flyer  
The Lead Bullet from Breech to Muzzle 1979  
RWS Schiess Technisches Handbuch fur Jager 1934
Midland Sporting Guns 48th ed- 1928 Catalog
First Model Maxim Auto Machine Gun
Mauser 1925 Waffen M.-W. Kleinkaliber-Präzisions-Waffen  
Charles Lancaster High Class Guns 1900  
Charles Lancaster Special Pigeon Guns 1901  
GECO Munitions 1936 Preisliste  
Burgsmuller Warren Preise 1930  

Gary Halbakken
Thompson 1929 Guns- Price List & Catalog

Our Navy 1898
W & C Scott & Son 1899 Gun Catalog  


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Letters from Readers

* While I have the camera out, thought I'd send you a photo of a boot pistol made around 1830 by my great grandfather's brother in Haverhill, NH. (M. Carleton Co.) This is a second model, they all seem to have different triggers and small changes. The Gun Report had a great article on them in Sept of 2007. Dick Carleton

This passage from the article entitled Michael Carleton, Haverhill, New Hampshire, An Innovative Underhammer Gunmaker of the 1830s, gives us a clear window into history:

Mr. C's Shop: One might think it enough to produce a pistol or rifle that survives for centuries, to become part of New England gunmaking history, and to be written about in an antique arms magazine. But how much better is it to have a historical account from a town boy who was welcomed into Carleton's shop and left with lasting impressions of wondrous activities. The following is a memory recorded by that boy, John Osgood, many decades later.

After describing the village blacksmith's shop on the East Road, John proceeds up the street. "...(the black smith's shop) seemed very ingenious to me. But even more so was another shop a few houses further up, on the same side. This was a somewhat longer establishment & belonged to one Michael Carleton. An embryo machine shop, devoted to the manufacture of firearms. What could be more delightful!

The motive power of the establishment was a horse who traveled around a circle pulling behind him a lever attached to a vertical shaft which served as a prime mover. The only machine of which I have any distinct recollection was for boxing gun barrels, three at a time I think, the barrels laying horizontally, side by side in a sliding carriage held down, or fed up, I do not know which, by a big weight, a lump of granite. I am quite sure that there were several other machines but I cannot recall them; anyhow I hung around this charmed place a good deal & date my hankering for firearms from it"

Quoted from the Gun Report article by Matthew Schneiderman, Mike Carroll and Nick Chandler.

Boot Pistol


* From our friend Joe in Spain:

"These are REAL classified ads, actually placed in a U.K. newspaper:

FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER.
8 years old.
Hateful little bastard.
Bites!

FREE PUPPIES
1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbour's dog.

FREE PUPPIES.
Mother, a Kennel Club registered German Shepherd.
Father, Super Dog... able to leap tall fences in a single bound.

COWS, CALVES:  NEVER BRED.
Also 1 gay bull for sale.

JOINING NUDIST COLONY!
Must sell washer and dryer £100.

WEDDING DRESS FOR SALE.
Worn once by mistake.
Call Stephanie."


Hey Abby, the pleasure is mine, you can be sure of that. The books you offer are a treasure trove for a history oriented gun crank such as myself.  I told you you'd be getting more of my money. Lol DM


Abby, Received the reprints and they are wonderful. Vorisek really did a nice job and I'm thinking about buying a few more of his tomes. I do have to wait until I settle with my restoration gunsmith on a few items. FYI the old Stevens single shot target pistols are really accurate for their age and original low price. Thanks. Hope you have a grand 2011 - Go Blue! Jerry


Abby, I just saw your ad in Handloader magazine. Brilliant. You are going to the shooting world's "G" spot. I gave the Winchester catalogue to my son for Christmas and he was(is) mesmerized to say the least!!! Thanks for a service that lets us relive those catalogue yearnings of our youth.  David M


Hey Abby, Hope you have a great holiday season & much success next year. Your business has really helped me do my research. Since I haven't stopped collecting I hope to be around for you for a few more years to come... :) Jerry


Abby,  Just wanted to say thanks for the catalog. This was my second I've bought from you and enjoy them both. Lots of great info. I will be ordering more soon.  I also wanted to let you know that I've been enjoying Ross Seyfried's column as well. I found you through his writings. I hope there will be plenty more columns from him to come. Thanks, Doug H.


Rants and Raves

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This month's winner is:

I had an unpleasant exchange with a woman from Norwalk, Connecticut just before Christmas. Her language, accusations and statements were way out of bounds, but after I posted her comments in this newsletter I reflected on the situation that contributed to her demeanor and decided against publishing her outbursts. You see, the woman's husband has Alzheimer’s disease and he had apparently just suffered a stroke leading me to believe the way she acted was not normal. The stress she suffered just did not warrant further exposure to embarrassment by me so, dear readers, you will just have to do without a rant this month because everyone else was saintly! Happy New Year. Abby :)

To see pages of Rants and Raves, and my replies, go to: RAVES and RANTS

Notes for New Readers (useful info repeated each month)

* The purpose of this section is to repeat in every newsletter some of the things I have said in past newsletters. By naming the section "Notes for New Readers", longtime subscribers may simply skip over it and read something new to them.


* Tired of SPAM? Virginia (our website guru from Carolina Web Creations) says:

1. Never use your real email address when signing up for stuff online. (ie: forums, purchases, etc.) There are many free email services out there (Google, Yahoo, Juno, etc.) where you can create an email address for your online activity. This will help ensure that your public email address is one you don't really care about, and will help keep your personal email address secure.

2. Use forwards cautiously - As much as we all like to entertain our friends with funny emails, cute links, and amazing videos, forwarding these things to your entire address book only add to the problem with email harvesters. While your address book may be clean and free of hackers, you can't guarantee that everyone receiving your forwarded email is as fortunate. Once you have forwarded that email (with all the addresses visible) and the recipient then forwards it to their address book, it's all downhill from there.

3. Use caution when visiting websites. Just because a site has appeared in the #1 position in Google doesn't mean it's a reputable organization. Web developers are savvy and are not only skilled at forcing a high ranking position in the search engines, but also at coding things to get what they want from those who visit their webpage.

4. If you get an email from someone you don't know, DO NOT OPEN IT. If you get an email from someone you know and the subject line is strange or inconsistent with something that you might normally receive from this person, DO NOT OPEN IT. And the most important - if you get an attachment from anyone with an extension of ".exe" - DO NOT OPEN IT! (.exe is an executable program, and once you double click on it, it will run some kind of program on your computer, usually designed to completely wipe out your hard drive, or something equally malicious.)

5. If you're interested in "cleaning up" your computer to remove possible spamware and malware, you can download programs like Spybot and Ad-Aware. I personally use both of these. Also, use caution when clicking advertisements - remember, these are ADS! They WANT you to click their ad and purchase their product and it's not always something "good for you".

There are many easy ways to reduce your risk of being a target for spam - education and understanding is a great first step.


* Paypal - I don't like Paypal and I don't think they make much of an effort to be less arrogant than they have been in the past, but, I use Paypal to process credit cards because they are cheaper by far than a bank for a small online business, They are reliable and they are secure. No, I don't like many of their policies but they are the least expensive I can find so we have to live with it. I do accept checks if you prefer and I don't wait for them to clear. If you stiff me with a check you go directly to the Rants and Raves column with your full name and address displayed for the world to see. By the way, Paypal has softened (somewhat) its previously hard line with respect to firearms and is now more reasonable. I wrote about it in my Newsletter.


* Ebay - The wizards at Ebay decided (just after they laid off a whole bunch of employees and their business is down) that they will no longer allow sellers to advertise that they will accept money orders or checks in payment for purchases made on Ebay. Customers may still pay that way but we cannot advertise the fact. I think the idea is to force people to use Paypal, which is owned by Ebay. Now, to be perfectly honest, I would be much happier if you bought things from my website Cornellpubs.com because that saves me sales commissions to Ebay!


* Hint- If you are using the browser Firefox and have trouble seeing any images on this website, try hitting the refresh button. Meanwhile I will continue trying to figure out how to make my website more compatible with the many different browsers out there.


* INDEXES for Every Catalog I reprint... Every catalog I offer has an index at the right of the page. Listings on Ebay, Gunbroker and Auction Arms also have indexes.

* More on Indexes: Not all my indexes are alphabetized and can be difficult to search. Until I find time to alphabetize all of them, hit the Control key (on the lower left) and the letter "F" on your keyboard. this will give you a little search box on the bottom of the screen. Start to type in the name of what you want to find on that page and it should be highlighted on the screen (this works with most browsers and on any web page). :-) Abby


At my website, you will find many gunmaker "master pages" listing all the catalog reprints of one brand. To the right of each "master page" are names of catalogs by merchants who carried that brand of firearms. For example, I reprint over 60 Remington factory gun catalogs but I also reprint over 160 gun catalogs from merchants that sold Remington firearms such as Sears or Abercrombie & Fitch or Spalding. Those are the listings on the right of the page.

Using the merchant links, you can identify a catalog from just about any year that displays the Remington line and by looking at the individual page indexes you can figure out what models were made in what year without spending a dime. Of course I would be happy to sell you those catalogs too! Most major gunmakers have a "master page" and I am adding more all the time. Just start with any category link: All Catalogs, 1835-1899, Ammunition or any other and you will find that the capitalized links indicate "master pages". When you select one you will see on the right, the links to the other merchants who sold that brand.


* I have some nifty tricks for you! If you have trouble reading small type on my website or any other, you can increase the size of the text on the screen by holding down the Control key (that's the one in the lower left of the keyboard with Ctrl on it) and scrolling the wheel on top of your mouse back and forth.


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* Whenever I scan a delicate old catalog with its covers hanging by a thread (and not wishing to be the one who detaches someone else's covers), I line up a bunch of paper clamps along the hinge of the book to hold the covers in place and then scan each page. This simple technique works wonders and saves old paper from harm. It also gives you handles to pick up the book!

The picture shows my book scanner. When I use the book scanner, the catalog hangs over the side of the scanner and only needs to be opened 90 degrees. This allows much less stress to be placed on the spine.

So there you have it, a tip that I hope will result in a torrent of eager collectors now willing and eager to let me scan their old gun catalogs... but, please call or write first, don't just send them because I may already have scans of that particular item. I still have hundreds of old catalogs on file that I haven't got to yet.


* Gun Value & Parts - I get scores of phone calls that start out "I inherited this gun from my grandfather and I just want to know how much it is...", I do not do appraisals, nor do I sell parts. See here for parts suppliers.

Mike Rich, owner of I Have THIS OLD GUN, has been involved in firearms restoration and appraisal since 1962.  Although Mike specializes in appraising Early American “Doubles,” side-by-side shotguns and rare rifles, he also does firearm appraisals for most American made guns.  These appraisals are frequently used to establish value for insurance, estate sales and/or resolutions and for owner’s wanting to know “what’s it worth?”  Whether one gun or an arsenal, send Mike an email to get started. Prices for a written appraisal begins as low as $35.00.


* I often use the The Greenhill Dictionary of Guns and Gunmakers by John Walter, Greenhill/Stackpole Books 2001 - ISBN 1-85367-392-7 to answer many of the questions I get each week about the origins of gunmakers. Like many all-encompassing works, some of the information may be inaccurate but over-all it contains a wealth of facts, dates and important history of great old companies. Each year you can buy the Standard Catalog of Firearms which lists most guns and their value used at Borders or Barnes & Noble or online at Amazon.


* Why Buy Old Catalogs- originals or reprints? If you want to learn about a gun or gunmaker I applaud you, and am so happy you found my website. History is what I am working so hard to preserve by making old gun catalogs available to collectors and historians. Buy a catalog from a gunmaker of the appropriate year and you will learn a mountain of true facts about your gun- right from the maker's month, so to speak. Never again will you have to rely on hearsay or bluster.


*Research- To help you learn more about the history of gunmakers I have a page of what I call Reference Books on my website. They cover a wide range of information by authors and the page deserves a look. One of the most prolific authors of gun history was the late Joe Vorisek. I am fortunate to be the authorized only source of his gun histories. Joe even has his own webpage of all his histories.


* Browser Usage - Sometimes people mention they cannot follow the links I put in my newsletters, or that the pictures don't show up. Well, sometimes browsers are set to only receive messages in plain text. This is usually because their internet connection is slow and pictures make it even slower. There are settings to allow or disallow HTML language (pictures and links).

Your browser (the program you use to view emails and internet sites) can be set to allow you to click on links to other web pages. The link can either open a new window with the original window disappearing to a small block near the top of the screen or it replaces the current window with the new selection. In the former case to return to the prior window, click the box near the top of the screen. In the latter example click the "back arrow" also at the top of the page (different browsers such as Firefox, Netscape or Internet Explorer use different symbols for the back arrow). For the most part, I use links that replace the newsletter page with the new link. So, to return to the newsletter, you will have to use the back arrow to return to the newsletter.


* Must Read: If you haven't yet done so, please read the About Us link on the website. It explains a lot of things such as why graphics vary in books, why I do this in the first place, errors and mistakes, guarantees, loans and more. Also, if you see something in the Coming Soon page you want, let me know and I'll move it up the list for you.


* If you collect Military Arms please check out the link page I have to Government and Military Publications as well as 75 Manuals of the World's Military Weapons (1945) in A Basic Manual of Military Arms - 1945 as well as the link to Machine Guns.


* YOUR ADDRESS- Yes, I am shouting! Each month I get angry phone calls, emails or letters from folks who "ordered the book xxx days ago and STILL DON'T HAVE IT! Usually they don't have it because the registered address at the website where they ordered the book is false (to "protect" their identity) or long outdated. When I point that out, they usually say that I should have double-checked or that their correct address was on their check or some other excuse. Sorry, I print address labels from the website as you typed it in. If your address is wrong the book goes to the wrong address. Please check your address at the website whenever you order something online. Thank you.


* How to pay for things on the internet while using your credit card with some safety... There are two areas of concern when you make the decision to pay online with your credit card. First, you have to make certain the site accepting your credit card is secure. There are two clues to security. One is in the URL or site address found at the top of the browser. Normally the URL begins with http://www etc. but a secure site has a different beginning. It starts with https://www. etc. The "S" means the site is using encryption software and it is pretty safe to send your card information to the company. By the way, do not send your credit card information in an email. Emails are NOT secure!

Of course, the second consideration has to do with what the company does with the information, the company integrity. If the company is located in Nigeria and you are sending money to "the government" to pay taxes on the $2,000,000 you won in their very generous random lottery, well, go ahead, you are a lost cause and I cannot help you. The point is to be careful about companies you never heard of before, don't know where they are located and the website has no telephone number. Caveat emptor, buyer beware. That is one of the reasons I like to pay with Paypal. When you do that you are giving only an email address to the company, not your credit card number.

Many folks call me to give me an order over the telephone because they "don't like to use their credit cards on the internet". So, a little more about credit cards and the internet. Every time you use your credit card at banks, gas stations, restaurants, stores and while browsing, the transaction is recorded on the internet! Small shops like ours carefully enter the information at a website belonging to a financial clearing house. Others, like Costco and Walmart are connected directly but they all go on the net.

What can you do to help make your credit cards safe? Know with whom you are dealing and what is happening when you hand over your card. Does a nervous and suspicious looking waiter disappear into the back room with your card? Hmmm. Does the gambling website where you are about to enter your card have no address, country or telephone number? Hmmm.

Your best bet is to confirm that the website address where you enter information begins with https:// rather than just http://. The 's' stands for secure, meaning encrypted. Also, be confident that the website itself is trustworthy, has 'contact us' information including a name, address and telephone number. Beware of offshore websites. Even with all these protections, some cards are stolen. We had a card stolen by thieves in Azerbaijan. How they got my card I have no idea but I check the charges on my card regularly (daily, in fact) and picked up the scam quickly and cancelled the card.


Parts Suppliers and Appraisers

Mike Rich, owner of I Have THIS OLD GUN, has been involved in firearms restoration and appraisal since 1962.  Although Mike specializes in appraising Early American “Doubles,” side-by-side shotguns and rare rifles, he also does firearm appraisals for most American made guns.  These appraisals are frequently used to establish value for insurance, estate sales and/or resolutions and for owner’s wanting to know “what’s it worth?”  Whether one gun or an arsenal, send Mike an email to get started. Prices for a written appraisal begins as low as $35.00.

 

We get hundreds of calls about parts.

Some folks are doing something about supplying parts...

Spare parts, accessories and original bayonets as well as complete original examples for all models of Ross Rifles- Barry DeLong   barryj@localnet.com   or 423-472-1972.

Hello Abby, I am responding to your request for parts source information for Remington Rolling Block Parts. We are attempting to supply reproduction parts needed to restore or rebuild the majority of models of rolling blocks made from 1867 onward. While this is a work in progress, I believe we are the largest supplier of these obsolete parts in existence. Thanks, Kenn Womack

Jim Buchanan recomends that you check out the Peter Dyson & Son Ltd. Co. of Yorkshire, England. They sell all kinds of parts and reproduction parts for antique arms. They have leather products, Damascus barrels and tubes, miniatures, used guns, air guns, reloading tools and much more.

Trapdoors Galore Email: trapdoorsgalore@gmail.com Address: 3240 W. Arby Ave. Las Vegas, NV 89118.   Phone No.  702-361-5322  Everything For The Trapdoors + Free Research On S/N's For The Trapdoor & Krag's

Joe Salter sells all sorts of things including butt plates, antique guns, collector ammo, air guns, holsters... well, check him out: http://www.joesalter.com

Phil Stewart sells parts, stocks and grips. He can be found at (740) 398-1941 in Mt. Vernon, OH.

The big parts houses for older guns are:

Jack First in Rapid City South Dakota their catalog (three volumes and over 2700 pages of invaluable information including parts diagrams) is available at (605) 343-9544 for $39.95

Gun Parts Corporation (Numrich) Kingston, New York (845) 679-2417. Well established with a good website.

Sarco Inc. Stirling, NJ (908) 647-3800 email info@sarcoinc.com

Bob's Gun Parts Po Box 200 Royal AR 71968 501-767-2750

Dixie Gun Works, Union City, TN (800) 238-6785

Provenance for Your Gun

Ever wonder who first purchased your gun or rifle or wished you had a certificate of origin? It could increase the value of your gun!

Sammy Baugh, or Eddie Dew or some other celebrity may have been the original buyer. Perhaps the provenance would increase the value of your favorite fowling piece or rifle. Well, now you have a chance to find out for free if the gun was sold by Von Lengerke & Detmold or Abercrombie & Fitch, two of the largest and most prestigious gun houses of the 20th century.

If you own a gun by one of dozens of manufacturers write down the serial number and compare it to the serial numbers at the G&H website:

or Contact:
Robert C. Beach, Records Research
Griffin & Howe, Inc.
33 Claremont Road
Bernardsville, NJ 07924
908-766-2287
Email: research@griffinhowe.com
Website: www.griffinhowe.com
(scroll down to see all the makes when you get there)

Serial Numbers and Corresponding Dates:

Gun sellers often give themselves a lot of latitude when claiming the provenance of weapons they sell. Age or factory modifications to the base model can add considerably to the value of any gun. The question repeatedly is- The Truth! Having a Serial Number from the gun in question can often lead you to the year it was manufactured and then to a catalog we reprint. This can be useful in determining how the factory intended to make guns... models, styles, calibers, engraving, checkering and options available.

To help you on your search I have put together a page on the website with links to websites that offer serial numbers and years of manufacture:

SERIAL NUMBERS

Original Gun Catalogs and Books for Sale

Here is the link to Box 4. All other boxes can be accessed from that page. If you would like prior notice of the sales, please sign up for the announcement newsletter. The hundred and fifty or so people who already signed up knew about this sale last week and some of the bargains are already gone. To register for the special newsletter, send an email to the following address and put the word REGISTER in the subject line: eightbore@comcast.net. Many thanks to all of you who signed up! IF YOU HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED THERE IS NO NEED TO DO SO AGAIN.

Old Newsletters are Available Online

If you missed a newsletter or want to look up an old one, please go to my website www.cornellpubs.com and look on the top of the first page for a link to old newsletters. You may view them online and in color with pictures. Also, on the subject of newsletters, I send out the newsletter in both HTML and plain text format. This means that if your browser is not set up to view pictures and colors, you automatically get the plain text version. I hope this explains why some of you don't see the pictures referred to in the letters - I know it has caused some confusion. Also, you should upgrade to the latest version of your browser for best results. To learn which version of you have, click the help button on the top line of this page and then look for the link that says "About [browser]".

Cheers,
Abby