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Happy New Year Everyone!
January 2009 Newsletter
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Email: Abby@cornellpubs.com (please don't "return" this newsletter to the unmonitored mailbox)

        In This Issue:

              1. Calls from the Wilds
              2. New Books and Special Thanks to Lenders
              3. Letters from Readers
              4. Provenance for Your Gun
              5. Serial Numbers by Year for Your Gun
              6. Double Gun Classics Magazine
              7. Original Publications for sale
              8. Rants and Raves
              9. Miscellaneous

Calls from the Wilds:Calls from the Wilds Image

*I was disappointed that nobody noticed "Happy" my 1952 Bentley Mk VI Shooting Brake (the proper Brit word for our station wagons) I owned many, many years ago. She was a lovely car and I wish our circumstances had been such that I could have kept her. Here is another look just in case you missed her last month:

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*More notes on browser usage: On the subject of browsers, I should add that sometimes people mention they cannot follow the links I put in my newsletters, or that the pictures don't show up. Well, sometimes browsers are set to only receive messages in plain text. This is usually because their internet connection is slow and pictures make it even slower. There are settings to allow or disallow HTML language (pictures and links). Your browser (the program you use to view emails and internet sites) allows you to click on links to other web pages. The link can either open a new window with the original window disappearing to a small block near the top of the screen or it replaces the current window with the new selection. In the former case to return to the prior window, click the box near the top of the screen. In the latter example click the "back arrow" also at the top of the page (different browsers such as Firefox, Netscape or Internet Explorer use different symbols for the back arrow). For the most part, I use links that replace the newsletter page with the new link. So, to return to the newsletter, you will have to use the back arrow to return to the newsletter.

*Home Protection by Fred Reed: "The other day I glanced at the web site of the Lake Chapala Society, a social club of sorts for expats around Mexico’s Lake Chapala, an hour

south of Guadalajara (where I live). Clicking on “Safety,” I found a long list of reasons why you should never, ever use a firearm to protect your home and family. No. See, you might miss, or be scared, or the intruders might take it away and shoot you, and they might be all mad and hurt you when all they wanted was your television. No, the best thing is to let them do what they want, and then maybe they won’t do anything bad to you.

This supposedly was written by a retired cop but, if so, he (or quite possible she, judging by the tone) doesn’t sound like any cop I have known, which is whole lots. Anyway, his, her, or its advice, is 'Leave the guns to people who are trained and prepared to use them.' Which he says he is.

Nuts. To begin with, cops usually know little about guns..."

(for more of Fred Reed's provocative column: Click Here- The column is number 398 on the left side.

 

*Download our latest flyer of old gun catalogs requires Adobe Reader - which is free- if you don't have it click: Get Adobe Reader

*Internet security continues to be of concern to many people so I will repeat my notes on credit card security: How to pay for things on the internet while using your credit card with some safety... There are two areas of concern when you make the decision to pay online with your credit card. First, you have to make certain the site accepting your credit card is secure. There are two clues to security. One is in the URL or site address found at the top of your browser. Normally the URL begins with http://www or similar. In contrast, a secure or encrypted site has a different beginning. It starts with https://www. etc. The "S" means the site is using encryption software and it is pretty safe to send your card information to the company. By the way, do not send your credit card information in an email. Emails are NOT secure!

Of course, the second consideration has to do with what the company does with the information, the company integrity. If the company is located in Nigeria and you are sending money to "the government" to pay taxes on the $2,000,000 you won in their very generous random lottery, well, go ahead, you are a lost cause and I cannot help you. The point is to be careful about companies you never heard of before, don't know where they are located and the website has no address or telephone number. Caveat emptor, buyer beware. That is one of the reasons I like to pay with Paypal. When you do that you are giving only an email address to the company, not your credit card number. Of course I have the same reservations about Paypal that everyone does, but they are pretty safe. For your safety and my peace of mind, I shred all credit card information and my website pay system is secure.

By the way, last year Paypal softened it's previously hard line with respect to firearms and is now much more reasonable. I wrote about it in my July 2007 Newsletter.

*Ebay has a new rule that affects a lot of people. The wizards at Ebay decided (just after they laid off a whole bunch of employees and their business is down) that they will no longer allow sellers to advertise that they will accept money orders or checks in payment for purchases made on Ebay. Customers may still pay that way but we cannot advertise the fact. I think the idea is to force people to use Paypal, which is owned by Ebay. Now, to be perfectly honest, I would be much happier if you bought things from my website Cornellpubs.com because that save me sales commissions to Ebay!

*Next, please double check your address to make certain it is current on all sites where you might order something. It will save a lot of trouble and anxiety. I am thinking of Ebay, Gunbroker, Paypal and Auction Arms in particular. And, while I am on the subject, I try to keep my prices as low as I can, but, not surprisingly, one of my greatest expenses is advertising, so, if you order directly from my website - www.cornellpubs.com - and not through the auction sites, you will save me a bunch of money that I can reinvest in new, old catalogs for you!

Abby

Hint- If you are using the browser Firefox and have trouble seeing any images on this website, try hitting the refresh button. Meanwhile I will continue trying to figure out how to make my website more compatible with Firefox

New Books and Special thanks (see the bottom of this letter for the complete alpha list without accompanying text):

For those of who know the name Joe Vorisek what I am about to say will come as very good news. Joe was a careful historian who compiled histories of many gun companies. Sadly, Joe died a few years ago and, for a time his works were in limbo. Then, last spring, I stopped by to see Shirley Vorisek in Connecticut on the way back from my son's wedding in Boston. Shirley is a gracious lady who granted me permission to reprint all Joe's many volumes of histories. You will find Joe's works entertaining and terrifically informative. So far of the thirty or so books Joe wrote, I have completed and have available the following:

American Arms (The Fox Gun) History by Joe Vorisek

Flobert Guns History by Joe Vorisek

Hopkins & Allen Illustrated History (serial numbers etc) by Joe Vorisek

Forehand Arms Company- Illustrated History by Joe Vorisek (Serial Nos etc)

Mossberg, O.F. Company History by Joe Vorisek

Savage Arms History by Joe Vorisek

Stevens Arms History by Joe Vorisek

Next month I will process three of Joe's most popular books (They should be available by January 3rd and each is over 500 pages!):

The Breechloading Shotgun in America, 1860 to 1940 Volume I (A through F)
The Breechloading Shotgun in America, 1860 to 1940 Volume II (G through P)
The Breechloading Shotgun in America, 1860 to 1940 Volume III (R through Z)

Bob Toth sent me a copy of Heritage Firearms, Wilton, CT 1964 Heritage was a favorite destination when I was first married and lived in Wilton. The building was bristling with history and unusual antique finds. Bob also included a copy of the Marietta Replicas (Famous Guns) c1968 catalog.

Tom Gendreau sent over a batch of Marlin catalogs I was missing and they include: Marlin 1946, Marlin 1947, Marlin 1952, Marlin 1953, Marlin 1959 Parts, Marlin 1960 and Service Arms 1963.

David Hanson stopped by with a copy of the National Park Service publication: Weapons and Equipment of Early American Soldiers 1947

I also managed to get to the collection of catalogs I bought at the Rock Island auction in Chicago during the fall of 2007. I processed the following before Christmas (the last one on the list is the Windfohr catalog from the Congo during colonial days and is particularly noteable):

Continental Mercantil Antiques (Madrid, Spain) 1961

Continental Merchandising (Madrid) 1960

Darne (French) 1957 Gun Catalog

Dreyse Pistolet Model 1907 Gun Manual

Gastinne Renette (Paris) 1940 Gun Catalog

Kreighoff Seitenschlob-(German) Drilling Neptun 1935

Lewis, GE (UK) 1936 Gun Catalog

Louis Vendrix (Liege) 1936 Gun Catalog

Perasso-hnos (Brazil) 1930

Purdey (UK) 1949

Samac, Paris 1950

Steyr c1930 (in French)

Verney Carron 1930

Vickers 1931

Webley 1933 Gun, Rifle, Pistol, Air Gun Catalog

Webley 1933 Air Gun Catalog

Windfohr-Armes, (Stanleyville, Belgian Congo) c1959

*If you collect Military Arms please check out the link page I have to Government and Military Publications as well as 75 Manuals of the World's Military Weapons (1945) in A Basic Manual of Military Arms- 1945 as well as the link to Machine Guns.

By the way, not all our indexes are alphabetized and can be difficult to search. Until I figure out how to alphabetize them, hit the Control key (on the lower left) and the letter "F" on your keyboard. this will give you a search box on the bottom of the screen. Start to type in the name of what you want to find on that page and it should be highlighted on the screen (this works with most browsers). :-) Abby

Al Capone's old house in Chicago,

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the unpretentious home at 7244 South Prairie Avenue, far from Chicago's Loop, is apparently for sale at around $400,000 which reminded me of an early use of the word terrorist. This 1920s cartoon was, in a way, prescient:

 

 

 

 

 

Letters from Readers:

Abby

Good Morning Ma'am, the Shotgun we were talking about is a 20 Gauge 28" Barrel Semi Automatic. The exterior of the barrel (exposed while assembled), is stamped Browning.     The exterior of the Receiver has the Browning trade mark (with John Browning’s Bust) and murals in addition it has the "Small Anchor" (Remington’s Test/Inspection Mark) followed by the Month ( K ) Year ( K ) codes. The Barrel when removed has the "Small Anchor" (Remington’s Test/Inspection Mark) followed by the Month ( K ) Year ( K ) codes, followed by the Serial number C6501.
 
I started my research on this Gun by going on line. I noticed several conflicting stories out there as to the history of Browning, and Remington. I then proceeded in calling Browning's Identification/ Information line listed on their website. They could not tell me much about the exacting information except that Remington built it for Browning in 1941, and that I should call Remington for further information. This puzzled me slightly.
 
I then called Remington to get more information. The help desk had to place me on hold to talk with their Historian. 10 minutes later they told me that what we have is a 1941 May production of a Model B11, and although they weren’t extremely clear about it, it seemed as if they were saying that when Remington and Browning came together in 1940, Remington temporarily ceased production of the Remington Model 11, and the previously produced Browning A-5, and combined the models in what was temporarily listed as a B11. Remington did make the statement to me that they were not certain of  the "C" in the C6501 serial number. It is my belief that it may have been the an early rendition of the later used A-B-C codes that were used after 1947 which supposedly indicated A =12 Gauge, B=16 Gauge, and C=20 Gauge, obviously the only thing that would make the most sense. Since it is believed that the merger of a unique model Remington built Browning, than one could only assume that a combination of serialization could also be possible.    
 
This lead to me pursuing this Model number (B11, or B-11) online, and coming up empty handed. My next train of thought, was proving it existed. That was when I turned to looking into old catalogs, or other advertising which may call it out for what it is.
 
My concern is that there are many appraisers listed out there, but if this is indeed as unique as what we believe it to be, some of them may not be able to adequately tell us what it is and document it correctly.  
 
This Shotgun is my Father's handed down from his adoptive father, and he was dealing with some financial issues and was considering selling it. He has since rebounded somewhat. Bottom line is he didn’t realize what he has. My younger brother and I had realized that this gun possibly had more history and value than that of the everyday Semi Auto 20 Gauge, and thought we would find out. (We wanted to make sure dad got a fair shake if he had to sell it).  Quite frankly it became more entertaining the further we looked into it. Honestly this has become somewhat of a bonding project between my brother and Father and I. We are enjoying this hunt probably more than any Trophy Buck.
 
Thanks in advance for Any and All Help that you can provide. Like I say, currently it is just a fun project, and possibly a great conversation piece, not to mention this may be reflecting on the way history really played out, and has been overlooked or lost along the way.
 
Doug Johnson

Readers? Abby

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Ever wonder who first purchased your gun or rifle or wished you had a certificate of origin? It could increase the value of your gun!

Sammy Baugh, or Eddie Dew or some other celebrity may have been the original buyer. Perhaps the provenance would increase the value of your favorite fowling piece or rifle. Well, now you have a chance to find out for free if the gun was sold by VonLengerke & Detmold or Abercrombie & Fitch, two of the largest and most prestigious gun houses of the 20th century.

If you own a gun by one of dozens of manufacturers write down the serial number and compare it to the serial numbers at the G&H website:

or Contact:
Robert C. Beach, Records Research
Griffin & Howe, Inc.
33 Claremont Road
Bernardsville, NJ 07924
908-766-2287
Email: research@griffinhowe.com
Website: www.griffinhowe.com
(scroll down to see all the makes when you get there)

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Websites with Serial Numbers and corresponding dates:

John Spangler & Marc Wade operate ArmsCollectors.com!
They offer pages and pages of Serial Numbers to put a year to the following weapons:

| Marlin | Mauser Broomhandle (C-96) | Remington | U.S. Military | Winchester |

| Gun Marks | House Brands | U.S. Inspectors | WWII German Codes And Markings |

also at this great website is a list of handguns and rifles with known serial numbers that qualify as antique,

or: Antique Serial Numbers for lots of Makers (pre 1889 scroll down the page)

or: Doublegunshop.com for:

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Original Gun Catalogs and Books for sale:

This fall I promised to unload some of the twenty or thirty boxes of originals blocking the second bay of my garage! Rather than list them on Ebay, I decided to first put up pages on my website (one page per box of about 70 catalogs each) with a list of catalogs priced at what I paid for them or in many cases much less. If they don't sell to my on-line clients I will then go to Ebay when I get a change.

Here is the link to Box 4 which is now complete. if you would like prior notice of the sales, please sign up for the announcement newsletter. The hundred and fifty or so people who already signed up knew about this sale last week and some of the bargains are already gone. To register for the special newsletter, send an email to the following address and put the word REGISTER in the subject line: eightbore@comcast.net. Many thanks to all of you who signed up! IF YOU HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED THERE IS NO NEED TO DO SO AGAIN.

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This month's winner is... None at all! Perhaps in the spirit of Christmas everyone has been cheerful and pleasant this month- not a gripe in the lot. So, I have to say that I am delighted and grateful I have nothing to complain about this month. Thanks to all of you for such a peaceful and pleasant holiday!

But... to see pages of past nastiness, and my replies, go to: RAVES and RANTS

 

Old Newsletters are available online:

If you missed a newsletter or want to look up an old one, please go to my website www.cornellpubs.com and look on the top of the first page for a link to old newsletters. You may view them online and in color with pictures. Also, on the subject of newsletters, I send out the newsletter in both HTML and plain text format. This means that if your browser is not set up to view pictures and colors, you automatically get the plain text version. I hope this explains why some of you don't see the pictures referred to in the letters- I know it has caused some confusion. Also, you should upgrade to the latest version of your browser for best results. To learn which version of you have, click the help button on the top line of this page and then look for the link that says "About [browser]".

INDEXES for Every Catalog...

Every catalog we offer has an index at the bottom of the page or in the case of new listings on the right. Listings on Ebay, Gunbroker and Auction Arms as well as our website have indexes (I appreciate purchases at the website where we don't have to pay listing fees or sales commissions... shipping is cheaper for you as well!)

Must Read:

If you haven't yet done so, please read the About Us link on the website. It explains a lot of things such as why graphics vary in books, why I do this in the first place, errors and mistakes, guarantees, loans and more. Also, if you see something in the Coming Soon page you want, let me know and I'll move it up the list for you.

Cheers,
Abby

December Completed Catalogs:

American Arms History by Joe Vorisek

Brun Latrige (Paris-Liege) 1902

Continental Mercantil Antiques (Madrid, Spain) 1961

Continental Merchandising (Madrid) 1960

Darne (French) 1957 Gun Catalog

Dreyse Pistolet Model 1907 Gun Manual

Flobert Guns History by Joe Vorisek

Gastinne Renette (Paris) 1940 Gun Catalog

Heritage Firearms, Wilton, CT 1964

Hopkins & Allen Illustrated History (serial Numbers etc) by Joe Voricek

Forehand Arms Company- Illustrated History by Joe Voricek (Serial Nos etc)

Kreighoff Seitenschlob-(German) Drilling Neptun 1935

Lewis, GE (UK) 1936 Gun Catalog

Louis Vendrix (Liege) 1936 Gun Catalog

Marietta Replicas (Famous Guns) c1968

Marlin 1946

Marlin 1947

Marlin 1952

Marlin 1953

Marlin 1959 Parts

Marlin 1960

Mossberg, O.F. Company History by Joe Vorisek

Perasso-hnos (Brazil) 1930

Purdey (UK) 1949

Samac, Paris 1950

Savage Arms History by Joe Vorisek

Service Arms 1963

Stevens Arms History by Joe Vorisek

Steyr c1930 (in French)

Verney Carron 1930

Vickers 1931

Weapons and Equipment of Early American Soldiers 1947

Webley 1933 Gun, Rifle, Pistol, Air Gun Catalog

Webley 1933 Air Gun Catalog

Windfohr-Armes, (Stanleyville, Belgian Congo) c1959

 

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